Clutch pedal stiff & doesn’t engage the clutch when depressed, also pedal gets stuck when coming back out?

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Kinda eyeball / rule of thumb...
Length of stroke is 1/3ish the Length of the body...
I'm gunna go look tomorrow.
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Kinda eyeball / rule of thumb...
Length of stroke is 1/3ish the Length of the body...
I'm gunna go look tomorrow.
Btw
Put truck specs in yer sig line
Nice 1/3 is a good place for me to start, I have specs in sig but this was posted before it was included so I don’t think it will pop us until I make a new post!

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Cool
Yea mine is a zf just so you know the difference.
But the premis is very similar.
I want to say the throw @ The t.o.b. is maybe 1/2"
 
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Ok nice that will make it easier to see if I have full engagement, the new master and slave feel much different than the old one when stepping on the pedal. A lot more smooth too.
 

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Check out this video I took of the slave pushing the newly welded fork.

I don’t know what’s not letting the clutch disengage :/

Stuck air? Been bleeding it for a while & the pedal is not fully back maybe 80%.

Is the slave pushing the fork enough? Clb says 1/2” on the fork. I feel like the slave should be extending more?
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These things are a pain to bleed. I probably pressed the pedal 1000x with my foot, no kidding. You can pull the inspection cover off the bottom to see whether you are getting any separation. As soon as you’ve bled it enough to get it to shift gears, start driving it. The vibrations/movement will help the rest of the bubbles get out of the slave cylinder. Until then I would just keep pumping the pedal.
 

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Something ive found that helps is if you compress the slave cylinder, it'll back feed the air to the master reservoir to help purge it. Food for thought...
 

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These things are a pain to bleed. I probably pressed the pedal 1000x with my foot, no kidding. You can pull the inspection cover off the bottom to see whether you are getting any separation. As soon as you’ve bled it enough to get it to shift gears, start driving it. The vibrations/movement will help the rest of the bubbles get out of the slave cylinder. Until then I would just keep pumping the pedal.
I just converted a C350 from E4OD to ZF. The '89 master and slaves don't come pre primed, so I had to install bone dry parts, then bleed myself.
Aside from having to recondition the brake/clutch assembly after it had sat for 15 years in a field, I installed a stage 3 South Bay, and did it all solo.
I found a vacuum bleeder online for about $50 that uses compressed air.
What amazed me was not only how well it worked, but leaving the vacuum on long after I would have normally had my fill of squirting fluid everywhere if I had a buddy to manually bleed, I continued to get random small air bubbles for at least a minute.
I discovered an error made when installing the bearing mod at the pedal,( didn't torque the arm down enough), and then the clutch worked perfectly.
I used the bleeder again to draw out tranny fluid from the cooler, filter, and lines, on a C6 I just rebuilt, and was able to pull out almost two quarts of 22 year old abused ATF that was contaminated by the smoked transmission, and would have compromised the rebuilt one.
Any compressor that will develop 60psi will work.
I got it for my big 80gallon and wound up using a little pancake portable.
After reading your topic I'm hoping I didn't mess up because I pulled the cap off the slave because there wasn't one on the donor, and I had no other reference.
Hopefully that wont cause an issue later.
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I also used it to empty a PS pump before swapping.
I will never be a slave to manual bleeding or line evacuation again.
 

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These things are a pain to bleed. I probably pressed the pedal 1000x with my foot, no kidding.
I will back up both of these statements. Even the 1000 pushes on the pedal isn't very far off.
The vibrations/movement will help the rest of the bubbles get out of the slave cylinder.
This works too. When I was about 20, I had to borrow my dad's 1963 International 1/2 ton for a while. It had a hydraulic clutch. He warned me that it would lose fluid slowly and told me to keep an eye on it. Since I was a young pup, knew better, and didn't know anything about a hydraulic clutch, I let the fluid get too low. I filled the master with fluid, but had no idea how to bleed it. Somehow, I managed to get it to where I could drive it, but not stop in gear. I could warm up the engine, shut it off, put it in gear, and the use the starter to get moving. It was still kind of chilly so I was letting the truck warm up to go somewhere. I got distracted about something and let it run for about 20 minutes. When I finally came back out, the clutch worked just like normal and I had no problems with it after that.
 
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