Daryl4
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Tuesday I ordered Baumann Quick 4 controller for the E4OD in my 89 IDI Centurion. I've read and watched everything worth reading/watching I think. All the manuals on their site, all their YouTube vids, a lot of threads on this forum, etc. What I think is missing though is a discussion of the ins and outs of all the options it gives. Best way to set it up, tuning details, etc. It seems there's a fair amount of people here who use this controller. I'd really like to get your experience on these things before I setup mine. As well maybe this can be a general Baumann Controller setup and tune thread, not sure let's see where it goes.
First I think some links...
The US Shift/Baumann page with manuals/instructions etc. http://www.usshift.com/pubs.shtml
Their YouTube Page https://www.youtube.com/user/usshiftcom/featured
The first topic that concerns me is how to best utilize the purple and brown(pin 4 and 5) wires? My rig is 4WD and a factory E4OD so I have the VSS in the transfer case and a factory OD button and light. Presumably I'd set it up with the purple "table switch" wire used for indicating low range to the controller. And the brown OD switch wire connected to the OD button to switch tables. But two questions, frankly I can't say for sure right now if the stock OD button is a momentary or latching switch? Secondly if going into low range it doesn't strike me as hard to use one of the other methods to select low range in the controller. This would free up the purple for other uses, but what, how would I best utilize that.
I'm quite set on utilizing manutronic, it won't be right away but it will be used. The instructions refer to using a table for "manual mode". Am I to assume that manutronic will/can utilize a table for TCC and maybe gear selection overrides?
Similarly it says it can select tables for 4wd/low so that can utilize another table?
Here's a quote from the manual
"Different modes can be selected in the tuning software which will select different tables for different situations. For example, “Select Tables Using Only 4WD Mode” will use table 1 in 2WD and 4WD high range, with table 2 for 4WD low range (Tables 3-4 will be used for the second and third low ranges, if equipped) If a switch is connected to the table select wire, “Select Tables Using Switch and 4WD Mode” chooses tables 1 or 2 in 2WD mode and table 3 or 4 in 4WD (depending on switch position).
"Select Tables Using O/D On-Off Mode” will choose the table according to the Overdrive switch. O/D On will use table 1, O/D Off will use table 2, and Manual mode will use table 3 (if enabled)."
I bring this up cause I think it'd be helpful to plan how I intend to use the 4 tables. How I intend to use the tables may effect how I initially utilize those two wires. I'm thinking if I understand this correctly I'll plan on setting it up as;
- Table 1. Go/Sport mode,
- Table 2. Cruise/economy mode,
- Table 3. 4WD high/towing(they have similar demands I think)
- Table 4. Manutronic/Manual.
I think again if I understand correctly if I set it up with the brown going to the OD button it can select between 1 and 2. Use the purple to select 3 using either the 4WD indictor switch or a manual switch wired in parallel. Last the 4th will be selected when I select Manual or Manutronic modes. I'll use either the controller button or a 2 second press of the OD button to select low range mode.
FWIW I don't actually see much point in utilizing an OD off mode. There's no situation where if I get going fast enough at a low enough throttle that I don't want it to select OD.
Secondly while I think I have a grasp on things like the jumper for the IDI tach signal, and other technicalities. Any issues others have faced and I need to watch out for when it comes to setting it up with an IDI?
Third, I want to be quite ginger with my transmission at first. It's a Jasper replacement, the rig only has 195K on it, and no signs it towed much, but besides it's issues that's all I know. Issues are primarily soft shifts, odd shift timing, and a lag and flare occasionally on the 2-3 shift. Think I'll replace the TPS/FIPL sensor tomorrow as it may be the cause but still I want to take it easy on this tranny, at least at first. What settings should I watch out for that may put undo stress on the transmission? Better to error towards hard or soft shifts? High line pressure I assume is a given but not sure about shift firmness. Similarly with TCC options, my assumption is erring towards it locking up only at a lower throttle is safer. As well as unlocking for all shifts if locking in other then high gear at all.
Forth I'd really like to wire up a few LEDs to tell me at a glance what is going on. TCC lockup, and what gear is commanded. I figure this can be done by smartly taping into the solenoid control harness. But exactly how and what pitfalls this may cause if done wrong I'm not sure. I've asked Baumann to work up a wiring diagram for such a thing but they haven't gotten back to me with that yet. Alternatively raydav mentioned wiring up LEDs with his controller, maybe he'll chime in with more info.
I know that was a long read, thank you already if you made it this far. I have no idea if this thread will get much play but while I'm new here I'm impressed so far with this forum and it's members.
First I think some links...
The US Shift/Baumann page with manuals/instructions etc. http://www.usshift.com/pubs.shtml
Their YouTube Page https://www.youtube.com/user/usshiftcom/featured
The first topic that concerns me is how to best utilize the purple and brown(pin 4 and 5) wires? My rig is 4WD and a factory E4OD so I have the VSS in the transfer case and a factory OD button and light. Presumably I'd set it up with the purple "table switch" wire used for indicating low range to the controller. And the brown OD switch wire connected to the OD button to switch tables. But two questions, frankly I can't say for sure right now if the stock OD button is a momentary or latching switch? Secondly if going into low range it doesn't strike me as hard to use one of the other methods to select low range in the controller. This would free up the purple for other uses, but what, how would I best utilize that.
I'm quite set on utilizing manutronic, it won't be right away but it will be used. The instructions refer to using a table for "manual mode". Am I to assume that manutronic will/can utilize a table for TCC and maybe gear selection overrides?
Similarly it says it can select tables for 4wd/low so that can utilize another table?
Here's a quote from the manual
"Different modes can be selected in the tuning software which will select different tables for different situations. For example, “Select Tables Using Only 4WD Mode” will use table 1 in 2WD and 4WD high range, with table 2 for 4WD low range (Tables 3-4 will be used for the second and third low ranges, if equipped) If a switch is connected to the table select wire, “Select Tables Using Switch and 4WD Mode” chooses tables 1 or 2 in 2WD mode and table 3 or 4 in 4WD (depending on switch position).
"Select Tables Using O/D On-Off Mode” will choose the table according to the Overdrive switch. O/D On will use table 1, O/D Off will use table 2, and Manual mode will use table 3 (if enabled)."
I bring this up cause I think it'd be helpful to plan how I intend to use the 4 tables. How I intend to use the tables may effect how I initially utilize those two wires. I'm thinking if I understand this correctly I'll plan on setting it up as;
- Table 1. Go/Sport mode,
- Table 2. Cruise/economy mode,
- Table 3. 4WD high/towing(they have similar demands I think)
- Table 4. Manutronic/Manual.
I think again if I understand correctly if I set it up with the brown going to the OD button it can select between 1 and 2. Use the purple to select 3 using either the 4WD indictor switch or a manual switch wired in parallel. Last the 4th will be selected when I select Manual or Manutronic modes. I'll use either the controller button or a 2 second press of the OD button to select low range mode.
FWIW I don't actually see much point in utilizing an OD off mode. There's no situation where if I get going fast enough at a low enough throttle that I don't want it to select OD.
Secondly while I think I have a grasp on things like the jumper for the IDI tach signal, and other technicalities. Any issues others have faced and I need to watch out for when it comes to setting it up with an IDI?
Third, I want to be quite ginger with my transmission at first. It's a Jasper replacement, the rig only has 195K on it, and no signs it towed much, but besides it's issues that's all I know. Issues are primarily soft shifts, odd shift timing, and a lag and flare occasionally on the 2-3 shift. Think I'll replace the TPS/FIPL sensor tomorrow as it may be the cause but still I want to take it easy on this tranny, at least at first. What settings should I watch out for that may put undo stress on the transmission? Better to error towards hard or soft shifts? High line pressure I assume is a given but not sure about shift firmness. Similarly with TCC options, my assumption is erring towards it locking up only at a lower throttle is safer. As well as unlocking for all shifts if locking in other then high gear at all.
Forth I'd really like to wire up a few LEDs to tell me at a glance what is going on. TCC lockup, and what gear is commanded. I figure this can be done by smartly taping into the solenoid control harness. But exactly how and what pitfalls this may cause if done wrong I'm not sure. I've asked Baumann to work up a wiring diagram for such a thing but they haven't gotten back to me with that yet. Alternatively raydav mentioned wiring up LEDs with his controller, maybe he'll chime in with more info.
I know that was a long read, thank you already if you made it this far. I have no idea if this thread will get much play but while I'm new here I'm impressed so far with this forum and it's members.
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